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JustinF · 06-06-2009, 01:07 PM

That explains it Marc

Had your water been RO/DI or something like that, you wouldn't have had the problem. Rain water is full of all kinds of goodies, but that is a whole other discussion that I alluded to in another thread

Organic Fertilizers

And no Philsuma it's not sterile, it's been opened and exposed to the air, clearly it's not sterile, but that has nothing to do with things growing in it. If it was tap water or something along those lines, it would already be growing things in it. However because it has a quick lifespan it will be sterilized and refiled before anything is a problem. Algae is not going to grow in it without the nutrients it requires to live. Bacteria will grow and form a biofilm on the tubing and other surfaces along the inside of the pipe if the pipe is left full of water, but they will be growing all over the insdie of your viv as well.

I understand this is something you heard, but the comment you made doesn't really make sense to me. I guess that means I am not familiar with it as I am not even sure what it is. I don't really understand what your trying to get at. Are you saying clear bottles are not safe? Or do you mean light is not safe for water? I have no idea what you mean or what it has to do with aerobic life. Even if it was in the dark, air would still be getting in there so what is the difference with darkness and light when it refers to Oxygen?

Philsuma · 06-06-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinF

And no Philsuma it's not sterile, it's been opened and exposed to the air, clearly it's not sterile, but that has nothing to do with things growing in it. If it was tap water or something along those lines, it would already be growing things in it. However because it has a quick lifespan it will be sterilized and refiled before anything is a problem. Algae is not going to grow in it without the nutrients it requires to live. Bacteria will grow and form a biofilm on the tubing and other surfaces along the inside of the pipe if the pipe is left full of water, but they will be growing all over the insdie of your viv as well.

I understand this is something you heard, but the comment you made doesn't really make sense to me. I guess that means I am not familiar with it as I am not even sure what it is. I don't really understand what your trying to get at. Are you saying clear bottles are not safe? Or do you mean light is not safe for water? I have no idea what you mean or what it has to do with aerobic life. Even if it was in the dark, air would still be getting in there so what is the difference with darkness and light when it refers to Oxygen?

Again...I told you that the small statement I made was from a third party - a breeder / importer from Florida. I have a college degree but it is not in Biology, and I did say I'm not entirely sure as to the processes as they were quickly explained to me 5 months ago at his warehouse.

Since I was not running a huge misting operation like he was, I only paid minimal attention. I may be able to forward you his info and maybe you may question him at your leasure.

Sometimes it is not helpfull to pass on information that is really unknown, but in this case, I decided on throwing it out there. If you have no idea what I just said and it seemed like Chinese or some other language, I'm sorry, but that's all I can provide at this time.

Socalsam · 06-06-2009, 04:32 PM

Nice mister Justin. Hey just curoius how much did that mister go for? I am begging to have to many tanks to hand mist and a mister would be a great help.

JustinF · 06-06-2009, 08:21 PM

Oh for sure Philsuma, if you know who it is I would like to talk to them more about it. It's possible as well that there is a geograhpic issue.

Sam,

The MistKing System, just the misting part, not the drains cost me $405 USD.

atlfrog · 06-08-2009, 09:43 AM

I rated this thread 5 stars because I think that people can really learn and be inspired here. Just a thought, ever think about using a UV filtration system to make your water sterile? I used it in several cases and it works great for salt water fish tanks. Just a thought to anyone who wants to answer...

http://cgi.ebay.com/AQUARIUM-Caniste...:B:SRCH:US:101
[Just one I really liked, but no cash for.

]

Socalsam · 06-08-2009, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atlfrog

AQUARIUM Canister FILTER,w/ 9w UV Sterilizer FREE MEDIA - eBay (item 350210787004 end time Jun-09-09 05:11:50 PDT)
[Just one I really liked, but no cash for.

]

Oh I like that. I have a UV but it hooks on the side of the resivoire. It was for my Reef tank but never really needed it.

Justin,

Thanks. Thats a nice price for that mister, but I am sure it is a good one. How many tanks can it mist.

JustinF · 06-08-2009, 04:30 PM

atlfrog,

I've used UV sterilizers in many applications in the past. I used to build LSS's for a living. Personally, no I have never thought about it. What I am actually doing is waiting on a study to arrive here I ordered from INIST France on Rainfall chemistry in the Amazonian Rainforest. When it gets here I plan to recompose my RO to match the data in the study as close as possible.

Sam,

The pump I have is rated up to 14 heads, but I just got a second pump sent to me cause I like the mist produced by a high PSI better, so I will be splitting the system into 2 as soon as the second one gets here. When you have a high PSI in the lines, the misters just fill the Viv's with ultra fine mist, getting it everywhere. That way nothing can dry out too much. If it's a lower PSI, the mist does not nearly encompass the Viv like high PSI does.

atlfrog · 06-08-2009, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustinF

atlfrog,

I've used UV sterilizers in many applications in the past. I used to build LSS's for a living. Personally, no I have never thought about it. What I am actually doing is waiting on a study to arrive here I ordered from INIST France on Rainfall chemistry in the Amazonian Rainforest. When it gets here I plan to recompose my RO to match the data in the study as close as possible.

Sam,

The pump I have is rated up to 14 heads, but I just got a second pump sent to me cause I like the mist produced by a high PSI better, so I will be splitting the system into 2 as soon as the second one gets here. When you have a high PSI in the lines, the misters just fill the Viv's with ultra fine mist, getting it everywhere. That way nothing can dry out too much. If it's a lower PSI, the mist does not nearly encompass the Viv like high PSI does.

Well cool to hear...let us know what you come up with. My tanks are as close as I can come up with in regards to the rainforest at the moment. When I get my greenhouse up and going we will see what I can come up with. I just thought I throw it out there. I have seen several applications done with this and just wanted.

JustinF · 06-09-2009, 04:18 AM

Yeah Merek, I mean I could make the water streile, but why? Who does that benefit? IMO the frogs absorb chemicals, minerals, really a fair amount of things through thier skin. It makes sense to me that the water they are sitting in be as good for them as it can be, and in my opinion, that isn't sterile water. The plants as well for that matter.

I too have big plans for an open greenhouse one day!

Socalsam · 06-09-2009, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustinF

atlfrog,

I've used UV sterilizers in many applications in the past. I used to build LSS's for a living. Personally, no I have never thought about it. What I am actually doing is waiting on a study to arrive here I ordered from INIST France on Rainfall chemistry in the Amazonian Rainforest. When it gets here I plan to recompose my RO to match the data in the study as close as possible.

Sam,

The pump I have is rated up to 14 heads, but I just got a second pump sent to me cause I like the mist produced by a high PSI better, so I will be splitting the system into 2 as soon as the second one gets here. When you have a high PSI in the lines, the misters just fill the Viv's with ultra fine mist, getting it everywhere. That way nothing can dry out too much. If it's a lower PSI, the mist does not nearly encompass the Viv like high PSI does.

OK cool, thanks for the info

Sam

06-06-2009, 01:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
JustinF Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Port Moody BC, Canada Posts: 34 Real Name: Justin Fournier	That explains it Marc Had your water been RO/DI or something like that, you wouldn't have had the problem. Rain water is full of all kinds of goodies, but that is a whole other discussion that I alluded to in another thread Organic Fertilizers And no Philsuma it's not sterile, it's been opened and exposed to the air, clearly it's not sterile, but that has nothing to do with things growing in it. If it was tap water or something along those lines, it would already be growing things in it. However because it has a quick lifespan it will be sterilized and refiled before anything is a problem. Algae is not going to grow in it without the nutrients it requires to live. Bacteria will grow and form a biofilm on the tubing and other surfaces along the inside of the pipe if the pipe is left full of water, but they will be growing all over the insdie of your viv as well. I understand this is something you heard, but the comment you made doesn't really make sense to me. I guess that means I am not familiar with it as I am not even sure what it is. I don't really understand what your trying to get at. Are you saying clear bottles are not safe? Or do you mean light is not safe for water? I have no idea what you mean or what it has to do with aerobic life. Even if it was in the dark, air would still be getting in there so what is the difference with darkness and light when it refers to Oxygen? Last edited by JustinF; 06-06-2009 at 01:10 PM.. Reason: Fixing link

06-06-2009, 04:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
Socalsam Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Murrieta, Ca Posts: 433 Real Name: Sam Cavoulas	Nice mister Justin. Hey just curoius how much did that mister go for? I am begging to have to many tanks to hand mist and a mister would be a great help. __________________ A few frogs.

06-08-2009, 09:43 AM	#15 (permalink)
atlfrog Site Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ATL, GA, USA Posts: 399 Real Name: Matthew "Merek" Preferred.	I rated this thread 5 stars because I think that people can really learn and be inspired here. Just a thought, ever think about using a UV filtration system to make your water sterile? I used it in several cases and it works great for salt water fish tanks. Just a thought to anyone who wants to answer... http://cgi.ebay.com/AQUARIUM-Caniste...:B:SRCH:US:101 [Just one I really liked, but no cash for. ] __________________ Merek Matthew Cardew :: ATLFROG.com HTTP://www.blogtalkradio.com/reptilian-fish Last edited by atlfrog; 06-08-2009 at 09:55 AM..

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06-06-2009, 08:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
JustinF Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Port Moody BC, Canada Posts: 34 Real Name: Justin Fournier	Oh for sure Philsuma, if you know who it is I would like to talk to them more about it. It's possible as well that there is a geograhpic issue. Sam, The MistKing System, just the misting part, not the drains cost me $405 USD.

06-08-2009, 04:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
JustinF Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Port Moody BC, Canada Posts: 34 Real Name: Justin Fournier	atlfrog, I've used UV sterilizers in many applications in the past. I used to build LSS's for a living. Personally, no I have never thought about it. What I am actually doing is waiting on a study to arrive here I ordered from INIST France on Rainfall chemistry in the Amazonian Rainforest. When it gets here I plan to recompose my RO to match the data in the study as close as possible. Sam, The pump I have is rated up to 14 heads, but I just got a second pump sent to me cause I like the mist produced by a high PSI better, so I will be splitting the system into 2 as soon as the second one gets here. When you have a high PSI in the lines, the misters just fill the Viv's with ultra fine mist, getting it everywhere. That way nothing can dry out too much. If it's a lower PSI, the mist does not nearly encompass the Viv like high PSI does.

06-09-2009, 04:18 AM	#19 (permalink)
JustinF Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Port Moody BC, Canada Posts: 34 Real Name: Justin Fournier	Yeah Merek, I mean I could make the water streile, but why? Who does that benefit? IMO the frogs absorb chemicals, minerals, really a fair amount of things through thier skin. It makes sense to me that the water they are sitting in be as good for them as it can be, and in my opinion, that isn't sterile water. The plants as well for that matter. I too have big plans for an open greenhouse one day!