New News about Paul Batchelor aka Urban Brom

Rich Frye · 09-18-2009, 08:26 PM

It appears Paul Batchelor is no longer living with mommy and daddy. Anyone looking for him can contact me either via Pm or my email @ richfrye@comcast.net. We have new info. Any further info anybody else has, and would like to pass along, would be appreciated.

Rich Frye

Knoxter · 09-23-2009, 10:24 AM

Hey Rich,

I am all for you providing information that is helpful or informative to members of the site, but there is no need for the sarcasm (ie "mommy and daddy" comment). Please refrain from such, unless it was meant as a joke, in which case a

or Just Kidding (JK) would have cleaned it up.

Also-Maybe I am missing something, but I am a little curious as to why would any one be actively looking for Paul Batchelor? Keyword being "Actively".

RE-"We have new info. Any further info anybody else has, and would like to pass along, would be appreciated." Is this Top Secrete personal information, or something that will be helpful to the DartFrogForums.com community?

Rich Frye · 09-23-2009, 01:10 PM

Marc,
Paul Batchelor has scammed a number (about eight of us, or more) out of over $25,000. If that doesn't call for sarcasm (at least) , I don't know what does. We are actively looking for him because we want our money back. The details are that he took all of our money and was supposed to send us frogs such a histos, vanzos, pumilio , and the like. Frogs he said he had in his possession. We found that he never had our frogs and never even applied for the needed CITES paperwork. He stole all of our money and had/has no intention of returning it. This started about two years ago. So it is not like we are jumping to conclusions here...
So, if you or anybody in our community , here or in England or the EU are in contact with him, I suggest not sending him any money.
We believe him to be in the Amsterdam area now. He was being housed by his parents up until about two months ago. We think he is moving around because we are not the only group of people (victims) looking for him.
We are not going away or forgetting about our money. And we are filing notice with what is England's equivalent of the IRS to let them know he has over $25,000 in undeclared revenue. There have been multiple police, federal , and international records filed also. If he ever steps foot on U.S. soil ( he has an X-wife and a child here) the feds (he had better hope) will snatch him up. Not sure how this guy sleeps at night. I'd be scared crapless.

Knoxter · 09-23-2009, 01:29 PM

Fair Enough,

Based on that, all I can say is, I understand. This is my first time hearing about this particular situation.....and unless there is someone out there that is disputing your accusation, particularly Paul Batchelor aka Urban Brom himself , I have to take this info at face value. That is alot of money, and IMO this is indeed helpful information to the DFF community, as well as the Dart Frog Community at large.

I would encourage you to continue to your efforts to rectify your matter by all means available to you.

Also-as you post subsequent updates on this topic, it may be helpful to post a link to all previous post. This way people who are not aware of what happened to you will understand why your coming off so "Pissed Off".

Good Luck

There's always two side to a coin.....what's you side?

Rich Frye · 09-23-2009, 01:48 PM

Thanks Marc.
Many of the other people who got robbed are very well known. Mods and owners of other sites and highly respected froggers. We are all very upset , to say the least. And are still scratching uor heads as to why someone we all considered a friend would rob us this way.
He won't post a reply, as he does not have a leg to stand on.
Again though, if anyone else has any other info we do not have, please forward it to me. We already have his parent home address, phone number and email addys. Thye apear to want to sheild him from those he has scammed. They are not helping us at all... Sad, very sad.

Philsuma · 09-23-2009, 03:41 PM

Marc,

Thanks for allowing this be posted in your Forum- in it's entirety.

It's a service to the hobby to have a detailed warning about people such as "Mr" Batchelor posted here.

Knoxter · 09-23-2009, 04:08 PM

No problem Phil,

I make every effort to ensure that the forum in in no way one sided. Everyone here has an opportunity to speak their peace. As would Mr. Batchelor, should he wish to.

09-18-2009, 08:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rich Frye Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 172	New News about Paul Batchelor aka Urban Brom It appears Paul Batchelor is no longer living with mommy and daddy. Anyone looking for him can contact me either via Pm or my email @ richfrye@comcast.net. We have new info. Any further info anybody else has, and would like to pass along, would be appreciated. Rich Frye __________________ Please enjoy Fryebrothersfrogs.com

09-23-2009, 10:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
Knoxter Administrator/SiteOwner Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 430 Real Name: Marc Knox	Hey Rich, I am all for you providing information that is helpful or informative to members of the site, but there is no need for the sarcasm (ie "mommy and daddy" comment). Please refrain from such, unless it was meant as a joke, in which case a or Just Kidding (JK) would have cleaned it up. Also-Maybe I am missing something, but I am a little curious as to why would any one be actively looking for Paul Batchelor? Keyword being "Actively". RE-"We have new info. Any further info anybody else has, and would like to pass along, would be appreciated." Is this Top Secrete personal information, or something that will be helpful to the DartFrogForums.com community? __________________ Marc My frogs- Vanzolini, El Dorado (ong&gold), Cayo de Agua, Almerante, Gold Dust, Yuris, Imis, Inters, Taras, O Lamasi, Iquitos Vents, Varis, SI. I appreciate everyone here. Without you, there would be no DFF. Thank you for your support.

09-23-2009, 01:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
Rich Frye Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 172	Marc, Paul Batchelor has scammed a number (about eight of us, or more) out of over $25,000. If that doesn't call for sarcasm (at least) , I don't know what does. We are actively looking for him because we want our money back. The details are that he took all of our money and was supposed to send us frogs such a histos, vanzos, pumilio , and the like. Frogs he said he had in his possession. We found that he never had our frogs and never even applied for the needed CITES paperwork. He stole all of our money and had/has no intention of returning it. This started about two years ago. So it is not like we are jumping to conclusions here... So, if you or anybody in our community , here or in England or the EU are in contact with him, I suggest not sending him any money. We believe him to be in the Amsterdam area now. He was being housed by his parents up until about two months ago. We think he is moving around because we are not the only group of people (victims) looking for him. We are not going away or forgetting about our money. And we are filing notice with what is England's equivalent of the IRS to let them know he has over $25,000 in undeclared revenue. There have been multiple police, federal , and international records filed also. If he ever steps foot on U.S. soil ( he has an X-wife and a child here) the feds (he had better hope) will snatch him up. Not sure how this guy sleeps at night. I'd be scared crapless. __________________ Please enjoy Fryebrothersfrogs.com

09-23-2009, 01:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
Knoxter Administrator/SiteOwner Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 430 Real Name: Marc Knox	Fair Enough, Based on that, all I can say is, I understand. This is my first time hearing about this particular situation.....and unless there is someone out there that is disputing your accusation, particularly Paul Batchelor aka Urban Brom himself , I have to take this info at face value. That is alot of money, and IMO this is indeed helpful information to the DFF community, as well as the Dart Frog Community at large. I would encourage you to continue to your efforts to rectify your matter by all means available to you. Also-as you post subsequent updates on this topic, it may be helpful to post a link to all previous post. This way people who are not aware of what happened to you will understand why your coming off so "Pissed Off". Good Luck There's always two side to a coin.....what's you side? __________________ Marc My frogs- Vanzolini, El Dorado (ong&gold), Cayo de Agua, Almerante, Gold Dust, Yuris, Imis, Inters, Taras, O Lamasi, Iquitos Vents, Varis, SI. I appreciate everyone here. Without you, there would be no DFF. Thank you for your support.

09-23-2009, 01:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rich Frye Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 172	Thanks Marc. Many of the other people who got robbed are very well known. Mods and owners of other sites and highly respected froggers. We are all very upset , to say the least. And are still scratching uor heads as to why someone we all considered a friend would rob us this way. He won't post a reply, as he does not have a leg to stand on. Again though, if anyone else has any other info we do not have, please forward it to me. We already have his parent home address, phone number and email addys. Thye apear to want to sheild him from those he has scammed. They are not helping us at all... Sad, very sad. __________________ Please enjoy Fryebrothersfrogs.com

09-23-2009, 03:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
Philsuma Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Harrisburg PA...AND...Ft Lauderdale Florida Posts: 115	Marc, Thanks for allowing this be posted in your Forum- in it's entirety. It's a service to the hobby to have a detailed warning about people such as "Mr" Batchelor posted here. __________________ Heading down to CR / Panama the end of Nov. PM me if you are interested in going along.

09-23-2009, 04:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
Knoxter Administrator/SiteOwner Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 430 Real Name: Marc Knox	No problem Phil, I make every effort to ensure that the forum in in no way one sided. Everyone here has an opportunity to speak their peace. As would Mr. Batchelor, should he wish to. __________________ Marc My frogs- Vanzolini, El Dorado (ong&gold), Cayo de Agua, Almerante, Gold Dust, Yuris, Imis, Inters, Taras, O Lamasi, Iquitos Vents, Varis, SI. I appreciate everyone here. Without you, there would be no DFF. Thank you for your support.

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