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Old 06-12-2009, 06:29 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I have seen this discussed more in the chat room more than I have in thread format in DB.

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+1, I've looked high and low and still can't find anything other then the standard don't use ferts in your Vivs. As a matter of fact I couldn't find one thread where people posted their experiences controlling water quality and any positive effects. The study did arrive today, I will get on it asap.

Addition: I've spoke to Mark Pepper regarding this theory I have and he is also curious to see the results. He's noticed some things regarding SLS, but didn't have any experience doing anything I mentioned himself. I guess I could call around to all the big breeders and get some opinions on the subject, but I would venture to say Mark has seen/bred more frogs then pretty much anyone in the hobby so I am really giving weight to his opinion. So please do direct me to the thread etc cause I would rather not re-invent the wheel.
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Old 06-12-2009, 08:30 PM   #32 (permalink)
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+1, I've looked high and low and still can't find anything other then the standard don't use ferts in your Vivs. As a matter of fact I couldn't find one thread where people posted their experiences controlling water quality and any positive effects. The study did arrive today, I will get on it asap.

Addition: I've spoke to Mark Pepper regarding this theory I have and he is also curious to see the results. He's noticed some things regarding SLS, but didn't have any experience doing anything I mentioned himself. I guess I could call around to all the big breeders and get some opinions on the subject, but I would venture to say Mark has seen/bred more frogs then pretty much anyone in the hobby so I am really giving weight to his opinion. So please do direct me to the thread etc cause I would rather not re-invent the wheel.
Sounds like you have all you need or want with Mark.
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Old 06-14-2009, 05:46 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Sounds like you have all you need or want with Mark.
Mark has about the same as myself, suspicions. When he sees SLS in the offspring from a pair, he separates them to give the female a break. After some time, he puts them back together and the pair re-assumes putting out healthy offspring.

This would somewhat replicate their natural cycle where they would have a flurry of breeding activity followed by a period of no breeding activity in the dry season letting the female rebuild the vitamin and mineral deposits in her body that she spent on her eggs.

Supplementing the water they spend their days in could slow the rate at which the female loses her own deposits, lengthen the time she could put out healthy offspring and reduce the downtime it would take for her to replace those she lost through breeding.

I'd still like to see the source where you said that this has been established, because I have not see it said by anyone other then you. Would love to see the evidence. It could save me time and money!

This obviously touches on another subject not discussed much, replicating the seasons in the Viv and the direct impacts of that on the long term health and reproduction rates of the frogs in captivity. How much misting is being done by many people vs how much should be done, but I will save that for another time.
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